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Oprah Reveals How She Demanded Equal Pay for Her Female Staffers

Oprah Reveals How She Demanded Equal Pay for Her Female Staffers

TV host and philanthropist, Oprah Winfrey sat down with TIME for an iconic interview series, TIME First, a project highlighting groundbreaking women in different fields.

Winfrey was the first woman in history to own and produce her own talk show—and a hugely successful one at that.

During the interview, she revealed she threatened to quit The Oprah Winfrey Show if the female producers on her talk series didn’t receive a pay raise.

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She said:

“I built this show around myself and the producers. We were young women in our 30s trying to figure it out and find our own way. I was making a lot of money, and my producers were still getting the same salary.

I went to my boss at the time and I said, ‘Everybody needs a raise.’ And he said, ‘Why?’”

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“He actually said to me, ‘They’re only girls. They’re a bunch of girls. What do they need more money for?’

I go, ‘Well, either they’re gonna get raises, or I’m gonna sit down. I will not work unless they get paid.’

And so they did. And while I was waiting for the bosses to pay them, I paid them myself in the interim.”

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From there, the media mogul went on to become a very vital voice and resource for women and girls across the world, even founding her own Leadership Academy in South Africa.

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Winfrey admitted a lot has improved in the area of inequality in the workplace:

“A lot of things have changed since then. I think there are a lot of us of my generation and other generations who swallowed a lot.

There’s an old spiritual that says, “Trouble don’t last always.” I always knew there would come a time when I would be in a position where I wouldn’t have to swallow it.”

The Oprah Winfrey Show, the highest-rated talk show in TV history, ran for 25 years.

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